Oh yeah almost forgot to tell ya I brought some new gloves too, there from POWERTRIP,the grand national model. I have medium sized hands and compared to all you regular human beings short fingers. I paid around $50.00 bucks for these and they feel great and the fingers are ok for me. I think they look pretty tight! I haven't used them yet so we'll see. I had some mesh icon gloves before and they have begun to split on the right hand by the thumb. It was good for ventilation but I decided to go all leather, because I love my 10 fingers. I'll let you know how they are ridin'. Later for now,,,Psalmryder, out!